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Loup des Abeilles's avatar

Peat is theoretically interesting, but actual Peating made me gain lipid mass so fast I thought the DEXA must have been miscalibrated. The only lean Peaters I have ever encountered are either in their 20s or ordering cytomel from Mexican pharmacies.

John Stoszkowski's avatar

Yeah the application is a different ball game. A lot of people get themselves in trouble. Online it’s a Wild West of supposedly Peatian protocols and frameworks that go way beyond anything he suggested. I think it’s a case of getting the metabolic rate up in a way that best fits for where an individual is with their history. It literally saved me a few years ago after I destroyed myself going down the standard road that ended in low/carb carnivore. I also think some people’s day-to-day environment is so inhospitable to health now it’s really tough no matter what they do. Throwing a load of sugar and ice cream on top of that is a recipe for disaster.

Loup des Abeilles's avatar

I was keto for seven years so I know what you're talking about: suppressed T and T3. I found Peat for that reason. But there was no substantial improvement in either from Peating, whereas my lipids got dramatically worse and I gained 30 lb of fat mass. I'm now back in keto simply for the lipid control and figuring how to work with the other problems. I have very high lp(a) so lipids are a central concern for me, as I can't do anything about the lp(a) but I can do things about e.g. ApoB. I could go Dean Ornish style but I look at that direction very skeptically; it might produce good cardiovascular outcomes, but does it shift all cause mortality? Probably not. Anyway thanks for listening LOL.

John Stoszkowski's avatar

I feel you. It can take a hell of a lot of individual experimentation working out what’s going on and blocking things, especially with the gut, liver, etc. And there’s so much conflicting info out there.